The second of this week's two episodes of OPEN AGENDA is now ready for viewing (S2 E38). We will introduce you to newly appointed County Councilman, Dave Ennis (District 3), who brings a lifetime of business management, construction management and community service experience to the county government. Councilman Ennis is an advocate for youth sports and is presently chairing a golf tournament fundraiser to be held at the Green Hill Country Club on October 3rd that will benefit middle school sports programs across Wicomico County. We also discuss the manner in which your tax dollars are being allocated to capital improvement projects, and explore some of the Executive's glaring inefficiencies in the use of those funds, poor project cost accounting practices, inadequate project planning, and inability to anticipate total project costs. These are the kinds of problems that experienced business people and construction managers know how to resolve, rather than politicians who lack the requisite experience but are mighty good at spending someone else's money. Tune in and be informed.
Open Agenda TV S2 E 38 Middle School Sports and David Ennis
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You're watching Open Agenda. Here's our
host, Joe White.
>> Welcome to Open Agenda. I'm your host,
Joe White. In the studio with me is Mr.
Mike Goldberg from Delmare, Mr. Jim
Atkins. Thanks for coming from Mardella.
>> Yeah.
>> So, we were at the county council
meeting last week. Uh we covered that.
Uh we even had a chance to uh sit down
with uh Bonnie Inis. So, uh from the
board of education, so we thought we'd
we'd bring in, you know, the utility
players as as he's been called. Uh Mr.
Dave Venice from the uh district three
of the city or the county council. Uh I
I want to get a a sense from just what
he's seen in his first like three or
four months. Uh I definitely want to
talk about the golf tournament that he
is uh the chairman of to help fund
middle school sport. But I want to see
is there some things that you want to
find out that what he's seen in his
first three months?
>> Well, I I think one of the things would
be uh he was on the council many years
ago. I don't know how many, but what
kind of changes has he seen? What uh
what's it like now versus what it was
like then? Uh is it civil? Is it more
intense? Just just what's the situation
now that he's got all this time in
between his stints on the council? How
does he feel that it's different?
>> Mike, uh you you've been at some of the
meetings where he's he's asked follow-up
questions to some of the budget
proposals. uh some of the the we're
talking about the landfill. I mean, he
his his ability to go through and and
articulate
numbers that are are actually comparing
apples to apples has seemed impressive.
>> Cell 7 uh we're expediting the best we
can. Was it in fact um way behind
uh the timeline?
>> Um I actually was reviewing a letter
that I thought about putting into this
slideshow. There was an authorization to
proceed in October of 2022
uh for cell 7.
>> Yeah. For that
>> authorization to proceed.
>> Well, one thing I'd say about Councilman
Enis is that he has a business
background.
>> The the sanitary district is is going to
be something that comes up. Um and the
the the county council is supposed to be
selecting people on that. At the same
time, you're probably talking about one
of the longest and most expensive
projects that that's going to going to
be on these taxpayers minds for beyond
our years. I mean, our our kids' kids
will still be working and working
through the sanitary district 50 60
years from now. Uh, I'm really
interested because his his involvement
in in bringing in experts and community
have have have allowed him to to really
get down to drill down to to an expert
level, even areas that he's not the
expert himself.
>> Yeah. Well, and you you can't when
you're a politician, a council member,
or an executive,
the people don't expect you to know
everything, but they expect you to bring
people in that do know what you need to
know and lead you and guide you in
making the decisions. You know, the
sanitary district is going to be a uh a
great help for a lot of people uh in the
Salsbury area that don't have enough
property to redo their septic system.
But there are going to be added costs
that they are going to incur every month
for as long as they own that home.
>> Well, let's bring him in. And Mike,
would you stick around because after we
have a chance to speak with uh
Councilman Enis, I'd like to bring you
back on and just find out a little bit
about what you thought he said. So stay
with us. When we come back, we're going
to bring in Councilman Inennis and find
out how he feels about his first three
months in office. So stay with us. We'll
be right back.
Welcome back to Open Agenda. In the
studio with us is Councilman Dave Andis.
Thank you for coming out.
>> Thanks for having me,
>> Mr. Jim Atkins. Thanks for sticking
around.
>> Sure. Sure.
>> So you you're the newest member of the
county council, but in some ways you're
also the oldest member of the county
council, right? I never thought about it
in in that uh in that way but yes uh 25
years ago I was also by appointment
served for two years 2000 2001 and uh so
25 years ago and I'll have to say
there's been a lot of there's a lot of
contrast between when I was on the first
time and what I'm uh seeing right now.
>> So you're you're you're the councilman
from from district 3,
>> correct?
>> Uh you're finishing the term that was uh
initially occupied by Shane Baker. Yes.
And he moved to Delaware. So, I had to
find somebody else to to come in and it
was you.
>> Yep. I I referred to myself as the
utility player for the county. I I get
put in.
>> Well, if you're a good if you're a good
relief pitcher, the Orioles may need
you.
>> I'm not sure who can help them right
now, but but anyway, very happy to be
here. I like the council that I'm
serving with very much.
>> Uh we're we're diverse. We have
different opinions and we're going to
disagree, but we're always uh civil and
>> well and uh you know talking about
sports uh one of the things I really
want to spend some time talking to you
is you're very active with helping youth
sports at the middle school level.
>> Yes. The involvement really comes from
uh I was actually the startup chairman
of the Wcomo Education Foundation. Okay.
In uh 2018 which was uh partially
initiated by Greater Salisbury committee
which I'm a member of. Uh so I served
for three or four years then turned it
over to uh Susan Pernell Cunes Jewelers.
Okay.
>> And now Michelle Wright. Uh they called
me back to help with a strategic plan
this past spring. So I said they kind of
pulled me out of retirement. Uh but
because of that recognizing the
importance uh Dr. Staer made mention of
middle school sports and what a benefit
that could be to students in this
county. Uh it really intrigued me. Uh so
uh being a glutton for punishment, I
signed up to chair the golf tournament
that's going to be a fundraiser in
supporting that very cause.
>> Well, so let's talk spec specifics of
the golf tournament. It's on June or
October 3rd.
>> Yep.
>> It's a Friday,
>> correct?
>> Out at Green Hill.
>> Yes.
>> And uh I mean you are still taking teams
signing up, right?
>> Absolutely. We've just started uh
getting our momentum. I think we've got
about six or eight teams that have
signed up so far. Our goal is to have
18. This is our inaugural, you know,
first year. So, you know, we'll we'll
see how it turns out. But I'm really
hopeful and appreciate this this
recognition by this uh program to uh to
hit our goal of 18. And uh we're looking
to raise somewhere between 30 $40,000
for middle school sports. And really,
that program is is still in its infancy,
but there's a lot we can do to help move
things along uh as as it uh as it
pertains to that activity. What kind of
sports are the middle school uh students
playing?
>> Yep. Flag football, cross country,
volleyball, basketball, soccer, and
track were all started last year. This
year they're adding cheerleading and
botchi ball.
>> Okay.
>> Which I thought was unusual and
different, but u
>> Well, getting back to your golf
tournament a little bit. I mean, uh
you're looking for 18 teams.
>> Yep.
>> Are you looking for sponsors?
>> Yes. Thank you very much.
>> Tell us a little bit more about what it
takes to put this on. Yes,
>> we uh the teams uh are at $600 a piece
first off, which is pretty reasonable uh
for a team of four. You get the cart and
uh and the the fee the fee of course,
but we are looking for sponsors and that
ranges anywhere from the top uh sponsor
for $5,000. You get two teams and you
get a lot of recognition um right on
down the pike. Uh 3,000 is all these are
the name of the sponsors. Allstar team
captain 2000, coaches circle a thousand.
So many different opportunities as far
as levels of sponsorship, whole sponsor
200 andor just field a team. But I
appreciate you asking that question very
much because we do want that level of
support and we really need those that
level of sponsorship to make this
successful.
>> And I can tell you as a former golf
course superintendent, you don't have to
be good at golf to go play in this. So
>> in fact, you could be very terrible.
>> Yeah. Well, and as you know, it's a full
scramble, so it's best. So, it's just a
lot of fun. Yeah. Uh, and they are
really a lot of fun. And Green Hill is a
is a nice course. I played there as a
kid growing up. It's uh uh just a
beautiful course. They've got it in
great condition. So, encourage anybody
who just wants to come out and have a a
fun day uh to to please sign up there.
There will be uh lunches available.
There will be uh adult and uh other
types of beverages available.
>> So, what what has been probably your one
surprise as the newest council member? I
mean, what's something that that did
surprise you?
>> Yeah. To to contrast from when I was on
25 years ago and and it's two areas
really. One is the intensity of some of
the issues and it might just be my dumb
luck when I landed here. You know, we
just got partially through solid waste.
>> Yeah.
>> And imposing or putting in legislation
to impose some uh penalties for out of
county as we probably or anybody who's
watching this topic knows it's already
taking a very positive effect. So, I
understand for Mr. Cory. Um, but the
other one that uh, and I know you'll
appreciate this and a shout out to
actually open agenda show and pack 14,
the amount of transparency and public
scrutiny there is now versus when I was
on the council in 25 uh, is is very
pronounced. Uh, the the council sessions
were not videoed at that time as one
just you know glaring s example, right?
uh but the amount of public engagement
and which I think is a great thing uh is
is is very different you know so it's
kind of interesting 25 years later
you've got somebody uh
>> you know who's got that perspective uh
and uh but those two things uh like I
say are are very uh very different and
the intensity of the uh
>> of the issues that we're dealing with
sanitation which I know you just spoke
about u several others that are are very
different
>> well one thing I will say in my
observations from watching you, you
you're you ask good questions. Uh a lot
of the council members ask good
questions, but I can definitely tell
yours are coming from a business
background.
>> Yeah.
>> U one in particular at the last council
meeting, uh there they decided to fund a
new generator out at the out at the
nursing home, which it needs to be done.
I mean, you you can't be a landlord and
and and not have those things. But uh
the the types of questions you were
asking as far as the funds and and they
were requesting 200,000 when the the
estimates 160 the cap those capital
funds stay in that capital improvement
fund.
>> Yeah.
>> That then become at the discretion
really of the executive. But that's
something that you're you're questioning
at this point. Right. that and many
things really. Um I uh I think that the
uh the amount of overall scrutiny
scrutiny with capital projects uh again
I don't mean to be I'm still in a
learning stage. So I've got I've got to
go back and make sure that I'm stating
things accurately or whatever the case.
But um you know the the the the funding
aspect that you just mentioned and the
leftover funds is a question and it's
something that we just need to be have
those things raised so that we know and
the public knows what's what's actually
happening and whether the the money that
was allocated is going towards the uh
the the original initiative or goal.
>> One one term I've heard you use is a
sinking fund.
>> Yes.
>> So can you explain that because I I
don't want to assume I know but I I
would like to know more about it. The
first and best example I can give and it
was when I was on the council before,
excuse me, Mr. Ry Charmer was the public
works director and he comes in one day
to the council and he said, "We need a
new cell for whichever cell that was. It
was probably one of the early numbers.
We're on seven now." And he said, "It's
going to cost $2.5 million, but you
don't have to expend appropriate any
money. It was already accounted for in a
syncing fund. It's basically just a
savings program." Okay? And if it's done
properly and I don't know the mechanics
of it back when he did it but I assume
that they were taking looking forward to
see uh predicting what the capital
expenditures were going to be especially
the sales which are the big ticket item
spreading that out over time what's the
life it's a simple calculation
and uh and then boiling that down to a
per ton cost adding that on to the
operational cost of the tipping fee so
that the tipping fee will already be
automatically saving up the money that
you need to, you know, to invest in the
next level of capital.
>> Cuz in for cell 7, you're having you
you've appropriated for bonds.
>> So, we're going to borrow money that
we're going to pay out over 20 years to
to fund a sale that will last six to
seven years.
>> Yes. And that really hurt my feelings
just to think about what a nice program
that we had. And I and I know there were
financial difficulties in in the middle.
Uh Joe Holloway pointed out at some
point in time the county actually
borrowed money from that contingency
fund. You may be aware of
>> the enterprise fund of the of the
landfill. Yes.
>> Yeah. So that's going the wrong
direction as far as I'm concerned and to
whatever extent it may take time but for
my purposes uh I would like to see us
reinstate that. If you think long term,
and I wish the county would think longer
term as far as planning goes, there's
nothing you can't accomplish with time
and giving good good thought processes.
But back to the sinking fund and as it
relates especially to the solid waste
that um I hope we get back on track and
I hope we have that in place so that
it's not uh you know a panic time or
that we're having to pay the extra
interest cost for bonding. Well, I think
one of the one of the examples of that
that sticks into my mind very recently
and I probably right about the time you
got on the council, it kind of
corresponds in there is the dredging
material at Sharp's Point. The council
gave funded $300,000 a year
to put money back to move the dredge
material.
It wasn't spent. $300,000
each year over seven or eight years.
So now when the
executive branch comes to the council
and they need to move this soil,
they want the council to give them $2.1
million to move 100,000 cubic yards of
soil.
There's no mention of the 300,000 that
they've given them for six or seven
years. And when that gets mentioned,
well, we don't want to spend that. We
want you to give us 2.1, but we want to
keep that 1.6 over in this pot in case
we need it somewhere. Well, why'd you
give it to them if they weren't going to
use it?
>> Uh, it seems that there's been kind of a
trend recently, as far as I can tell, of
overruns and unexpected costs. Uh, now
we're looking at needing to spend, I
can't recall what it is, two or three
million for the uh new Verizon building
for for renovations. you may not need to
spend it. It was what was requested by
the executive's office.
>> Well, good good point there.
>> Yeah.
>> Yes. A small remodeling job has turned
into a major
>> major one, which you know, honestly, it
should have been thought about before.
And and another thing that's changed,
and again, I don't mean to be so
critical, but looking back, uh the
person who headed up CIP was Ted Sheay,
uh the uh deputy director at that time.
And my point of saying that is uh I
think it falls entirely under a finance
department and that's okay and they're
good at numbers, don't get me wrong, but
I like having somebody who's got
business management experience as well
that can look at those projects and
maybe think about asking what's the
total renovation going to cost from the
very start.
>> Well, so we've covered this in the show.
They did ask that.
>> This might be a question for the
executive's office or Matthew. How about
retrofitting uh operational or whatever
you want to call I've not talked with a
engineer or architect yet uh in regards
to that. Um but the way it's structured
um there's main uh concrete and steel
structural columns throughout the
building. So everything else is pretty
much can be retrofitted as long as you
don't mess with those in integral uh
structural pieces. Um so it should be
easily retrofitted. It should be easily
completed once we sit down review about
what space is needed and how it will be
uh designed for efficient flow and
activity.
>> They had numbers from back in January of
2024. In fact, we've we've presented
that on the show and uh the the agent
who presented it to the council and with
along with the executive's office did
not have $2.7 million in the in the
cost. In fact, it was it was buil as
turnkey.
>> Personally, I think it's absolutely
astronomical that we're asking for $2.7
million to do renovations on a building
we spent about $4 million for. If we'd
known that, we would have been spent 7
million for a brand new building.
>> And I think that that's been one of our
goals of this show is, hey, listen,
everybody makes mistakes. Uh but you
can't revise history. Yeah,
>> you can learn from it, but if you're
just going to pretend like that wasn't
the case, then then you're just bound to
make that mistake. And I think that's
one of the most frustrating things
as an outsider when you look at the
budget.
The budget says this year $210 million
plus or minus 10 cents here or there
and it's a balanced budget. We're going
to take in 210 million and we're going
to spend 210 million.
>> Right? But now all of a sudden you've
got all these projects for the past 3
years that were funded 3 years, two
years ago, a year ago that now we're
going to spend that money to finish that
project. Well, that's not in the budget.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, so so how do you have a
balanced budget when you're spending
past year's allocations and it's not
included in the budget?
>> Yeah, that's that's a great point. That
is a great point. and and honestly
looking at the really big picture as far
as how is Y ComicO financially now we
all know that there's a big surplus I
think it was 67 million whatever the
case
>> but uh I call it uh hidden liabilities I
think there's a lot of things out there
coming our way uh not to
>> water and sewer
>> water sewer um disparity grant is it
going to be here forever nothing's here
forever
>> we still have to fund the other part of
Futland Primary
>> Fruitland Primary that's right that's
correct uh fire and EMS. I mean, you can
go on down
>> in the landfill expansion,
>> not this current cell, but when they
cross Brook Road
>> and sanitary wastewater treatment should
be funded by grant money entirely. Uh
the list goes on and on. And even though
we have this surplus, I'm all being a
business person or I'm a very
conservative and cautious in my business
and that's the attitude I'm bringing
here to Wamiko County. I think we just
really need to keep our eyes open and
again looking at the future uh trying to
trying to see what we have coming down
the pike at us. Uh
>> I sure do hope you keep asking the same
types of questions you're asking. I do
want to talk about the details one more
time of the golf tournament because
October 3rd the weather's going to be
beautiful that day. I looked it up.
>> 75 sunny and
>> you're you're using the same uh length
that I'm using
>> and a hurricane coming up the coast. No,
no, no, Jim. No, please.
>> Maybe on the 6th, but you might as well
go play golf.
>> We won't let that happen.
>> October 3rd. Um team registration $600.
Uh the registration is at 9:00. Uh
shotgun start at 10:00. Uh prizes to be
given out afterwards and looking for as
many sponsors as we can uh as we can
garner. There's one other part of this.
If you're a parent of a of a Wakcomo
County middle school student, make them
play a sport. Well, at least encourage
them to try it, right?
>> Okay.
>> Because I mean, and I I grew up here
just like you and Jim. I mean, nothing's
nothing's more prideful than putting
your your school shirt on, getting on a
bus, and going and and and at least
doing the best you can to to, you know,
beat down your rival school, right?
>> Yeah.
>> I like that idea. I like that idea.
Yeah. Bonnie said in last week's meeting
that last week's show that she did go to
Bennett, so that we didn't agree there.
But uh
>> well, we both did, so we might be in the
same, but I was going to admonish you
for having her on first because as Jim
pointed out, she is a hard act to
follow, and I I don't like to be uh you
know, second.
>> I'm going to tell you, we went ahead, we
started at the top that we were right
about that. That you did. You did.
>> Well, thanks for your time today.
>> Thank you very much. appreciate the uh
yeah the recognition and and uh helping
us, you know, meet our goals and and to
help middle school sports start.
>> We'd like to have you back on in a few
months.
>> We'll do.
>> Stay with us. We'll be right back.
>> Welcome back to Open Agenda. Mr. Mike
Goldberg, thanks for coming back.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Mr. Jim Atkins, thanks for sticking
around.
>> Still here.
>> So, it was a great conversation uh with
Councilman Enis. uh we we got a chance
to to to dive into a little bit of the
process of his thinking at least how he
obtains the information that he uses to
make decisions. What you think about
that?
>> I I think he's very thorough in uh
expecting numbers to come out and
looking at uh he's just not not going to
take somebody's word who's sitting in
front of it and saying, "Well, we can do
this and we got the money over here." He
he wants to know where the money's
coming from, how it's being spent.
>> Well, you know, he was not here in
January of 2024. The rest of the council
was along with the executives team when
they were proposed the the the Verizon
building out on Mount Herman Road as the
new health department building. And the
three of us have have deep concerns
about the the final cost of this
project, how it's being presented now,
and the numbers potentially being
manipulated. Uh Mike, from a guy who
comes from commercial real estate
background or or due diligence on that
side, you brought up the fact that the
the the tenant improvements would never
exceed 10%
uh of of the cost of the building, which
was about 3.65 million, but the county
executive's proposal is to spend 2.75
million in there. And I'm interested to
see, do you think someone like
Councilman Enis who would who asked
those types of questions, do you think
he, even though he wasn't here two years
ago, do you think he can get to the
bottom of what should be spent there? I
>> I think he can. Um, one of the biggest
reasons is he comes from a construction
background. So he knows he knows what it
actually costs to get this stuff done.
>> And he knows what the right ratios
should be for, you know, an existing
building that has no major flaws to, you
know, tenant improvements is not a
complete interior retrofit. You're not
taking it down to the studs and redoing
everything. And the um the insight uh
that he'll be able to bring to that, I'm
very confident will will work to
everyone's benefit. You know, the
interesting thing is you say 10% of the
purchase price
to to remodel that building. Well, let's
be generous. Let's give them 30% of the
purchase price. We still will not have
spent the money that the county took in
with rent from the Verizon for them
using all this. So, you know, if we just
took the money that the county earned by
renting it back to Verizon and
reinvested it, it wouldn't have cost the
citizens anything.
>> But the finance director explained this.
They just put that money in the general
fund. Yeah.
>> Uh and we got a chance to ask Councilman
Andis about sinking funds. And this is
something he's discussed openly.
>> Um again, I you know, it sounds great.
It it it needs more scrutiny, but it's
probably a a a good pathway. Well, the
general fund has a uh the problem with
the general fund is in my view, it's
like a funnel.
Everything goes in the top and stuff
drips out of the bottom. And you know,
when you have ways of paying for things,
but you spend that money on something
else, then all of a sudden you've got to
come back and say, "Well, I need money
to do what we were going to do beginning
with the nursing home."
>> Nothing against doing the generator for
the nursing home. I'm sure that's very
necessary. From a broader sense, uh back
in April and May during the budget
season, you had work sessions uh with
the executives finance team about the
hurdle building, the funds that you were
planning to spend there, most notably
going towards the Verizon building. Um
since then, publicly, we have not heard
anything about the proposed $2.75
million that we were going to spend on
the Verizon building. Uh, I know that
was outside of what the council uh in
general was looking to spend, but uh if
we're going to start earmarking $200,000
here or there, uh, it would the the
lease with Verizon runs out in October,
it would be nice publicly to know what
the taxpayers are going to be expected
for improvements for the building. There
was $200,000 that was set aside to
renovate the hurdle building, which is
the current health department building
on. We we had this new building, the
Verizon building, that the county
executives team has said needs 2.75
million, but the county council was
asked by the executive's office to you
take that 200,000 for the old building,
use it to to get a generator for the the
nursing home.
>> Right now, the current generator that we
have does not um and Pay can talk to
this more than I do, um does not operate
the full facility. The new generator
that we are installing will operate the
full facility, but the electrical box
that we have to connect through can't
handle that level of generator. And
thus, we need to update the electrical
system to be able to accept the
generator so that the whole facility
could be run on a generator if we would
need to, which we hope we don't need to.
Ultimately in 2024, we made the decision
to buy the Verizon building and thus
this money was set aside but not used
for hurdle because we made the decision
to buy Verizon or has the has the
nursing home planned for like the
sinking fund for major capital
expenditures in the next 10 years, 5
years.
>> We have not um looked at it in that
regard. Um could we? Yes. But we have
not at this moment. The kicker was the
generator should only cost about
160,000,
but it might be a little bit more.
>> Looks like the proposal's for just under
160,000. So, if we allocate the 200 and
it ends up at 160, what happens to the
excess?
>> So, at that point in time, it it would
be included in that list that we're
going to do this fall. Uh again, instead
of giving the exact dollar amount
because until they get in there and do
the electrical work, could there be
another small change order? We hope not.
>> But they went ahead and gave them the
whole 200,000. And there was some
questions about that. And the director
of finance, Pam Olen, said that
whatever's not spent will go into
department 32, which is unused capital
improvements. And at that point, it can
be used for anything. and uh or not
anything but a lot of different things.
Um
>> since this project had $200,000 in it,
we're asking for the full $200,000 to be
moved over and as such it would be
included in the when we receive the
final bill, it would be included in the
list of uh projects that could have
excess funds that could be utilized for
other things.
>> And then and then the taxpayers are
going to be asked to go back and fund
this other renovation. But in too many
cases, that money is going to be used
without necessarily the the oversight of
the county council or of us us taxpaying
voters.
>> So it it um it hides the money. Look,
anybody who's ever managed multiple
projects, no matter what field you're
in, you have to allocate the funds to
that project. Once you start co-mingling
funds, it is real easy to play games
with that.
>> If you buy lottery tickets with your gas
money, you're going to end up broken
down on the side of the road.
>> Yes. And again, not pointing any fingers
at anybody because I don't know what the
people did or didn't do,
but it's the thoroughess of this project
at the nursing home, which should be a
question.
They bought a generator for the nursing
home.
This $160,000
they need
is the nursing home electrical system
will not handle this new generator.
>> Okay?
>> So, they have to redo all the wiring,
all the breakers, all the electrical
work in that and they need $160,000.
Okay? So they didn't know this when they
bought the generator that that gener I
mean that's like going out and buying
a 30foot boat. When you own a Ford Pinto
well when the boat gets delivered to you
you're going to have to go inside and
tell your wife I need a one ton DY to
pull this truck.
>> And that's what they've done with this.
You can't tell me that they didn't know
when they bought that generator that
somebody didn't say
>> well he
>> this building can't support this
generator.
>> He talked about transparency and that's
going to be our mission because the
Verizon building that lease runs out at
the end of September. So about 30 days
away.
>> So there's going to have to be another
meeting there and when it does we're
going to cover it. So thank you
gentlemen. Thanks for coming out. Yes
sir.
>> Thanks for watching this episode of Open
Agenda. We'll be back next week with
another new episode.
County Executive's budget has increased
from 2024 to now over $100,000.
